Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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If shunning was not a tool used by jw what would happen

by poopie in

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friends

to organization.

Brokeback Watchtower

To drop shunning would mean no longer being authoritaians, the whole structure would crumble because they have reached a point of no return they must stay the course till they go belly up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

Social criticisms[edit]

Authoritarianism and denial of free speech[edit]

Doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses are established by the Governing Body,[148][149] and the denomination does not tolerate dissent over doctrines and practices.[4][150][151] Members who openly disagree with the movement's teachings are expelled and shunned.[152] Witness publications strongly discourage followers from questioning doctrine and counsel received from the Governing Body, reasoning that it is to be trusted as part of "God's organization".[151][153][154][155] They also warn members to "avoid independent thinking", claiming such thinking "was introduced by Satan the Devil"[156][157] and would "cause division".[158] Those who openly disagree with official teachings are condemned as "apostates" who are "mentally diseased".[159][160][161]

Former Governing Body member Raymond Franz has accused the movement's Governing Body of resenting, deprecating and seeking to silence alternative viewpoints within the organization[162] and demanding organizational conformity that overrides personal conscience.[163] He claimed the Watch Tower Society confirmed its position when, in a 1954 court case in Scotland, Watch Tower Society legal counsel Hayden C. Covington said of Jehovah's Witnesses: "We must have unity ... unity at all costs".[164] He also stated that Witnesses are subject to a disciplinary system that encourages informants.[165][166]

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What Can A Member Of The Governing Body Get Disfellowshipped For?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i don't think any member of the elite gb can be disfellowshipped while in the office, i think they need to be removed first from being part of the elite ruling class ceos and then latter be df'd if the need be.

i'm of this opinion from what happened to raymond franz, chitty, and greeenlees.. ray, was not df'd for apostacy while on the gb, he was first removed from office given a $10,000 severance package and booted out of bethel, latter he was seen eating with a member that left the clutches of the organization to which the wt corporation put into effect that eating a meal with a df'd or disassociated member is in itself a df'n offence.. i think the watchtower will be very reluctant to df any former gb member because they can do so much damage if they go public like ray franz did..

Brokeback Watchtower

I don't think any member of the elite GB can be disfellowshipped while in the office, I think they need to be removed first from being part of the elite ruling class CEOs and then latter be DF'd if the need be. I'm of this opinion from what happened to Raymond Franz, Chitty, and Greeenlees.

Ray, was not DF'd for apostacy while on the GB, he was first removed from office given a $10,000 severance package and booted out of Bethel, latter he was seen eating with a member that left the clutches of the organization to which the WT corporation put into effect that eating a meal with a df'd or disassociated member is in itself a df'n offence.

I think the Watchtower will be very reluctant to DF any former GB member because they can do so much damage if they go public like Ray Franz did.

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If shunning was not a tool used by jw what would happen

by poopie in

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friends

to organization.

Brokeback Watchtower

There would be a mass exodus in time. As soon as they lift the shunning rule from off the backs of their members and people could voice negative comments about the organization and it's Governing Body without the fear of shunning the ranks would begin a major shrinking.

That is why they will keep the pressure up and probably never give up this tool to keep people in ignorance till they go belly up dead as a corporation.

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Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

Brokeback Watchtower

While I'm not saying that one or two members of the Governing Body are pedophile/s. I'm saying to be a member of the Governing Body you have to be a very good straight faced liar, be it in deep denial, or compartmentalization, or just straight faced cover your corporate ass liar.

They are calling on all the faithful to believe only them, with the threats of disfellowshipping for repeating/voicing/believing anything negative about the GB or the corporation. No independent thinking allowed, trust only us, means they are hiding facts from the faithful and will keep doing so until the courts force them to come clean, and even then it will be done very begrudgingly.

I think I can make a case for them being huge liars and wolves in sheep's clothing who would if the need arises use the 2 witness rule to keep moving up the corporate ladder.

David Splane speaks to 600 congregations in Portugal about Pedophile cover ups starts at 1minute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK9T4TlSYyk

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-jehovahs-witness-leaders-are-responding-to-child-abuse-scrutiny/

After it aired, however, David Splane, a member of the Witnesses’ Governing Body, spoke to 600 congregations from the religion’s Portuguese headquarters in Carnaxide, according to TVI, the station that aired the documentary. Splane’s talk provided a window into how Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders are handling the scrutiny.

“Now, sometimes, the brothers will call New York and say, ‘Why don’t you do something about this? This was a terrible program,’ ” said Splane, who was visiting from global headquarters in Brooklyn. “What do you want us to do? The journalist has a closed mind. The journalist isn’t interested in the truth. And so we usually just leave things as they are and let the story die.”

The documentary, “In the Shadow of Sin,” was based on the Witnesses’ own internal documents.

“Slanderous, negative remarks that people were making about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Jehovah’s Witnesses weren’t there to defend themselves,” Splane said.

Ana Leal, the journalist who reported the story, said she sent numerous emails to the Witnesses and went to the organization’s Portuguese headquarters asking for their participation before the documentary aired. After Splane’s remarks in November, Leal went back and tried again.

In a follow-up report, Leal said the Witnesses let her through the gates of their compound, only to tell her, “We have nothing to add.”

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Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

Brokeback Watchtower

Trust only the Faithful Slave don't believe any bad reports on in the media or internet about the Governing Body. These are the type of liars that hide behind the 2 witness rule, which a helper to the Governing Body says that the 2 witness rule will never change,, being that they are such huge liars we will have to wait and see if this statement is really true or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyD2mWeZMug

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Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

Brokeback Watchtower

I love how you didnt say specifically that he WAS a pedo and using the two witness rule to hide, you said you think he would.... but in so doing implied he is.

I never implied he was, you did the implying. I'm simply stating that these guys are in serious denial, and to notice how unflinchingly he lies in front of the camera. That is some very serious denial going on, the same type of lying that would get a pedophile off the hook with the 2 witness rule and allow one to keep climbing the corporate ladder all the way to becoming a top member of the Faithful & Discreet Slave.

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Signs You Would Like To See At Watchtower Convention

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think gb loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes with his picture attached could be a real killer!.

believe and obey only the faithful slave, don't believe any negative comment about us in the press believe only us.. google: child molestation watchtower bible and tract society, klick on wikki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.

Brokeback Watchtower

Here's a nice place for ideas for a sign:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

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Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

Brokeback Watchtower

This guy right here looks like he would take refuge in the 2 witness rule to save his ass. Notice how he lies unflinchingly with his rubbery face starring right at you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmDuHd9GQnc

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Signs You Would Like To See At Watchtower Convention

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think gb loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes with his picture attached could be a real killer!.

believe and obey only the faithful slave, don't believe any negative comment about us in the press believe only us.. google: child molestation watchtower bible and tract society, klick on wikki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.

Brokeback Watchtower

I think GB Loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes With his picture attached could be a real killer!

Believe and Obey Only The Faithful Slave, Don't Believe Any Negative Comment About Us In The Press Believe Only Us.

Google: Child Molestation Watchtower Bible And Tract Society, Klick On Wikki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse

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Anglican Church response to the Aust Royal Commission. What a stark contrast!!!!

by stuckinarut2 in

oh wow...how the gb and the society could learn from this response!.

no victim blaming.

no passing of the buck.

Brokeback Watchtower

I think if the Watchtower Corporation doesn't come up with a good plan to protect children they maybe facing a lot of fines and very firm treatment in law courts that could cost them every kingdom hall and any other property they got.